"That was the year when I finished second?" Berger asks, looking at a picture of himself at Monaco, in 1984, after a Formula Three race.
"Yes," I tell him.
"It was hurting me a little bit," he recalls, "because I finished second - Ivan Capelli won the race - but some races later they found out that he was cheating on the airbox. It was the Italian Loteria in Formula 3, where I also finished second and he won; they opened his engine and he was cheating on the airbox. And I always thought that if it was like this I could also have won the Monte Carlo race. But anyway, yeah, I remember this race.
"It was the race where John Neilson showed me very carefully the whole track and told me where not to use the kerbs in the chicane down in the harbour because it's very dangerous, and then he had a huge crash there exactly on this place where he told me not to do it! And it was a very big crash - he broke his hips and everything. Yeah, I remember this race."
"You never won there," I tell him. "Is this your big regret in racing?"
"No," he replies. "I don't regret anything."